Posted by: al66888 | July 26, 2007

THIS is why conservatives are against universal healthcare

I’ve heard it all when it comes to Conservatives and health care

  • They want people to die
  • They despise the poor
  • They are only for the big corporations and big pharma

All of the above are not only false, but rather disgusting.  They’d almost be laughable if people weren’t so ignorant to actually think this way.  Why are Conservatives against Universal Healthcare?  How could anyone possibly be against providing healthcare for all?  It’s not the end result that any conservative is against- it’s the cost and the fact that there are no government programs that are actually more successful than their enterprise counterparts.  But, Universal Healthcare is FREE!  As a friend said to me once (and rang ever so true after a $3k ACL surgery), “there’s no such thing as a “free” puppy. 

Wisconsin (you know, the cheesehead terrorists- see post here if you don’t get that joke) is proposing Universal Healthcare for all it’s citizens. And it’s only going to cost you (just for the healthcare) more than ALL of the current taxes combined, more than doubling the amount of tax money the average person would pay.

Democrats who run the Wisconsin Senate have dropped the Washington pretense of incremental health-care reform and moved directly to passing a plan to insure every resident under the age of 65 in the state. And, wow, is “free” health care expensive. The plan would cost an estimated $15.2 billion, or $3 billion more than the state currently collects in all income, sales and corporate income taxes. It represents an average of $510 a month in higher taxes for every Wisconsin worker

$510 a month! That’s extra, that on top of everything that your government is currently taking from you. Read this line again: $3 billion more than the state currently collects in all income, sales and corporate income taxes. What?? Free healthcare is going to cost more tax revenue than EVERYTHING the state already collects.

Employees and businesses would pay for the plan by sharing the cost of a new 14.5% employment tax on wages. Wisconsin businesses would have to compete with out-of-state businesses and foreign rivals while shouldering a 29.8% combined federal-state payroll tax, nearly double the 15.3% payroll tax paid by non-Wisconsin firms for Social Security and Medicare combined.

This employment tax is on top of the $1 billion grab bag of other levies that Democratic Governor Jim Doyle proposed and the tax-happy Senate has also approved, including a $1.25 a pack increase in the cigarette tax, a 10% hike in the corporate tax, and new fees on cars, trucks, hospitals, real estate transactions, oil companies and dry cleaners. In all, the tax burden in the Badger State could rise to 20% of family income, which is slightly more than the average federal tax burden. “At least federal taxes pay for an Army and Navy,” quips R.J. Pirlot of the Wisconsin Manufacturers and Commerce business lobby.

As if that’s not enough, the health plan includes a tax escalator clause allowing an additional 1.5 percentage point payroll tax to finance higher outlays in the future. This could bring the payroll tax to 16%. One reason to expect costs to soar is that the state may become a mecca for the unemployed, uninsured and sick from all over North America. The legislation doesn’t require that you have a job in Wisconsin to qualify, merely that you live in the state for at least 12 months. Cheesehead nation could expect to attract health-care free-riders while losing productive workers who leave for less-taxing climes.

Ask yourself, if you owned a business in your current state and they jacked your taxes 10%, or if you were a family there and your tax burden was going to raise 20%, why would you stay? You wouldn’t. If this was NY, why not move your business to NJ or CT. There are plenty of other states to run your business from. What happens if you can’t move your business? You’re a store front in the downtown shopping area? Well, your profits are going to drop because you’re paying more and taxes, and your customer base is going to drop because they won’t have the extra money to spend on luxury items. That’s if their jobs are still there, not in the next state over.

Now just imagine this burden, not in WI, but throughout the United States. The current proposal would literally shut down the economy. Then everyone would health care, but no jobs. I’m not saying the Healthcare system is perfect, or that it doesn’t need to be fixed. What I am saying is that we need to come up with a better idea, because this one just doesn’t work.


  1. I would like to see a universal helathcareplan but I doubt its ability to work in this country of 300,000,000 people. The first problem I see is our government has proved time and time again they cannot handle special needs money without borrowing from the money and putting the programs in jeopardy. (Social Security come to mind.) Another multiple problem I see is what it will cover. No insurance covers everything. Yet I can see both liberals and conservatives coming up with objections about coverage. My personal objections would be on-demand abortions, medically unnecessary plastic surgery, sex change operations or other feelgood psycho babel surgeries.

  2. […] This is a blatant violation of using taxpayer dollars to support those who are not in this country legally. Those that do not show the respect of our laws we are now looking to give them healthcare. And why not, after all it’s free! Free healthcare for all, even for those who aren’t citizens. Anyone that still thinks that, you must have missed my post breaking down the free healthcare for the great state of WI. […]

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